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        Sorry, but this is just some random image I found on the internet. Try searching it through Google image search to find the origins. Good luck. 🤞

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    Ubuntu has that dumb subscription to get security updates that pushed me away. Sure it was free for personal use, but I don’t want to have to give my personal information to get updates that are created primarily by volunteer open source developers anyway.

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      as far as I understand it, they aren’t directly from upstream, canonical makes or backports those patches.

      that’s the whole point, subscribing gets you patches before the devs of the packages do for that version

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        subscribing gets you patches before the devs of the packages do for that version

        Why would anyone want this?

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        Exactly. But the corporations do it because it benefits them more than starting from scratch. They should release all changes to the central repository for all to consume as part of the agreement to get the benefit of the already created software. Not hold onto the patches to give them to their customers and people who pay them with their personal information.

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          Everything that’s in main gets released to everyone with the security fixes. Canonical’s security team works on those.

          The stuff in the universe repo is owned by the Ubuntu community (not by Canonical), so anyone can submit those fixes, but it depends on the Masters of the Universe, who are all volunteers, to get it upstreamed.

          The extra Ubuntu Pro updates for the universe repo come from when someone who’s paying for Ubuntu Pro asks Canonical to make a patch. The source is still available to anyone, so someone could take that patch and then submit it to the community who maintains the universe repo.

          Once the 5 years of standard support ends, then the only way to get additional fixes is through Ubuntu Pro, but if Canonical writes those fixes they also submit them back upstream (as opposed to if they grab a specific patch from upstream — and even then it’s still available on Launchpad regardless.

          The reason nobody’s made a CentOS but for Ubuntu Pro is that it’s way easier to submit the patches through the community (and become part of that community who approves packages) than it is to spin up all the infrastructure that would be needed.

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      What do you think canonical should charge for? They do put a ton of work into the linux eco system

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        Y’know…this. I might not like it, and many of their choices are… questionable…

        …but I think it’s good we have some effort coming from full-time career paid Linux developers, rather than just sponsorship money from FOSS-leeches like “mEtA” and “aMaZoN.”

        By simply not using Ubuntu, and ignoring the MOTD on my VM servers…I don’t really feel affected by their actions in any meaningful way. And that makes me happy.

        As opposed to having to just accept whatever new footgun Microsoft wants to blast users with next.

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        Same they did before or red hat does or every other corporation who has benefitted from the labor of open source developers. Services built on those things or built around them. Not the things themselves. Their corporate customers benefit from the stuff they produce, but they didn’t produce most of it,so either start from scratch with, propriety software, or they need to give the content to everyone at the same time, not hold onto it for some time. That’s against the whole idea of open source and probably technically violates some copyleft licenses, but definitely violates the spirit of them. Even if they fix some bugs or add some features, they didn’t come up with the ideas, build the thing while it wasn’t producing income, or build the communities that they collaborate with. They just add what benefits them to the existing content.

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        Entirely seriously:

        Such as what exactly?

        … Developing… Snaps?

        Like, no, really, what do they do?

        Are they why GNOME devs are insufferable?

        ???

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          You do not seriously think all canonical has done is snaps and Gnome.

          Is building one of the most popular linux desktop environments and distros not enough to sell a paid support package to the users who want it? I dont think thats unfair.

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            one of the most popular linux desktop environments and distros

            Oh you mean the DE they abandoned almost 10 years ago?

            Is selling user data to Amazon and harvesting data illegally from Azure VMs not enough for users to tell them to stick their terminal ads up their ass? I don’t think that’s unfair.

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              Fuck off Tankie, I will not fall for your concern trolling bait today.

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                I mean, I also dislike tankies, but simply having a .ml user account does not automatically make someone a tankie.

                Also, they’re not concern trolling.

                What they brought up is highly, directly relevant, and it also is not a hypothetical, its … just reality.

                I don’t think you know what ‘tankie’ or ‘concern trolling’ mean.

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                  I know that guy is a crazy tankie, I’ve see him around. What he brought up is a bunch of shit intended to waste time. He doesnt care about any of those things so trying to argue is a waste of time and most of its untrue or misleading.

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                  Oh, uh, that’s over at PopOS!, who are basically actually doing / trying to do what Canonical said they were gonna do, 5-10 years ago.

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            No, I was genuienly asking.

            Yep, they make a distro.

            Lots of orgs make distros.

            This isn’t a decade ago, when Ubuntu was … leagues more generally user friendly than most other distros.

            What do they do for the broader linux ecosystem, outside of their own distro, other than snaps?

            You said they contribute to the ecosystem.

            How do they do that?

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              Hardware support and working with manufacturers to bring linux support, vendor support bringing mainstream apps to linux, advertising linux laptops and getting it in front of people all around the world, Wayland, gnome, accessibility, a ton shit way to much to list. Just because the improvements are done for Ubuntu doesnt mean they arent useful on other distros. Its free software after all the rising tide lifts all boats. Canonical arent a huge mega corp raking in cash. They cant compare to giants like redhat.

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                I’ll grant you that they are not redhat, but again, tons of other teams behind other distros do some or all of what you just mentioned.

                And… almost all, if not nearly all of them, do not monetize their OS.

                Is… Canonical uniquely important, in some way?

                Poof them out of existence, and what, outside of their own direct projects, breaks?

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                  Which ones dont monetize their OS? Its not that they are uniquely important. Its that its perfectly fine to monetize their own os. They are selling a service that is additional support for users that want it. Pretty simple stuff, you see users asking for this stuff all the time.

                  Why shouldn’t they be able to offer additional paid support for their own distro? Why does it matter

                  Poof them out of existence, and what, outside of their own direct projects, breaks?

                  How is this relevant at all?

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              They invented a solution to sell user data to Amazon, does that count?

              They also have a bunch of knock-off products like canonical aws, canonical terraform-ansible, canonical k8s, etc.

              This isn’t a decade ago, when Ubuntu was … leagues more generally user friendly than most other distros.

              It was crap a decade ago that’s why everyone was already installing mint, and only slightly less crap almost 2 decades ago. I installed Linux for the first time around 2006, and Ubuntu was no different than one of the first versions of opensuse. The whole “Ubuntu is for beginners” hype was literally all due to them sending free install CDs.

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                Hah, fair enough, I was still a Linux n00b back in even 2012.

                I have tried to study the history I missed in retrospect, but it sounds like you just directly experienced it starting from an earlier point in time than I did.

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    If I were in charge of a distro I’d push this as an update on April Fools Day

    Which is part of why I’d be a bad pick for the position XD

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    Turn On Linux Backup Sign-in to your Linux Account to automatically save your Desktop, Documents, and Pictures to TuxDrive!

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    Best I can do is:

    You must activate Linux within 30 days.

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      echo "H4sIAAAAAAAAA1OIJwpw2SgE5KQmFqcqOCaXZJYllqQq+GTmlVYolGeWZGTmKRgbKKQkVhYr2HEp\
      6BIFuBSQgEaMviZUQCM+X6EGJqmvgGDHABHULQoIIQjQzEcYp18DNh+hEaiuBirDBQApvkoY7gAAAA==" \
       | base64 -d | gzip -d
      
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        Pretty sure I’m not gonna be running anything involving “gzip -d”, seems like probably a bad idea, lol.

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          is what I got (no, I did not just do that on my PC)

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            I think your llama’s ears are suffering from some kind of malformed whitespace problem.

            … guess you better pony up that money for the update that fixes it, lol.

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            Ahah, ah… yeah, yep, uh, you got me, stinkin little coward over here.

            But uh hey, I could always try that out on your PC, right big bro?

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            Is that even some particular kind of actual instruction set, or just gibberish that would cause something like a fork bomb?

            I guess it is a base-d virus though, 64 ways to sunday…

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              For it to be anything executable you’d have to pipe it into bash again to evaluate it

              For it to be a zip bomb of any merit, the gzipped contents would have to have more than a few bytes

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      Oh, you have more than 4GB of RAM? Looks like the Linux Starter Edition subscription won’t be enough for you. You’ll need to upgrade to Linux Pro Home Studio with Copilot Standard for $35 a month

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    Zorin OS is (last I checked) not free for the full version. IDK how they enforce that considering they are still open-source, but you can only get Zorin OS Lite for free. You have to pay to get the full OS. I’ve just always found that funny.

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    Fedora has a Gnome Shell extension that adds Fedora over the wallpaper.

    Shouldn’t be hard to make your dreams a reality