• Optional@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    It’s quite common for me to be annoyed, angry, or upset at a headline writer. Then there’s the feeling I got reading “Meet the AI vegans.”

    Whole new level.

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    24 days ago

    Abstaining from a thing does not make one a vegan. That’s not how any of this works.

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      24 days ago

      I mean, abstaining from animal products makes someone a vegan, right? If you abstain from AI products then it would follow that you’re an “AI vegan”.

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        24 days ago

        It follows, but it is also feels like click bait.

        A definition of vegan is:

        A vegetarian who eats plant products only, especially one who uses no products derived from animals, as fur or leather.

        There is an environmental parallel, and it made me read the article to see what they were on about – so I guess it worked.

        To be clear, I am very pro environment (I live in it); I just feel like this is crossing the streams of related, but completely different movements, isn’t particularly helpful.

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        24 days ago

        Abstaining from animal products is just vegetarian. Veganism requires an extremely strict adherence to a very specific set of rules concerning animals.

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      24 days ago

      They are “journalism vegans”. They are choosing to abstain from actual journalism for clickbaiting, herd mentality, and personal lack of skill reasons.

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    25 days ago

    What bullshif us this?

    A. I vegan is a nonesence title.

    How about " people who don’t want the world to end even faster tell corps to fuck off"

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    25 days ago

    I applaud folks like this - they make a choice and stick with it. No “I’ll never use AI to generate art but I vibe code to save time” hypocrisy. No “I use it to help me with maths, but I’d never use it to steal artistic work”.

    Just straight up “it is an environmental hazard, it is unethical, not engaging”. Should be called “AI Ethicists” rather than “AI Vegans”.

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      24 days ago

      also because it’s shit, if my memory serves me, I have successfully used AI for a productive task 1 time out of 7 attempts so far… it saved me 5 minutes

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        24 days ago

        That is part of the trust thing. I spent more time fixing the word salad it spat out than it would have taken to write the document.

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          24 days ago

          Yes, hand in hand…

          Anecdotal of course, but every person I know who claims AI is a huge productivity booster simply trust it blindly.

          I can’t even get “Copilot” to return a proper answer from its own meeting transcript… just yesterday there was some confusion about an IP address we exchanged in a past meeting… I asked Copilot to check the transcript and give me the IP of the vendor’s server (which I pointed by name of system and who spoke it in the meeting) and it gave me the IP of MY server, functionally the complete opposite of what I was asking but with full confidence in its answer

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    24 days ago

    I don’t use A.I. because I’ve had nothing but negative interactions with A.I. Customer service bots that fail to give adequate responses, unhelpful and incorrect search result summaries, and, “art,” that looks like shit hasn’t made me want to sign up for ChatGPT or Gemini. For most people, this isn’t a moral stance, it’s just that the product isn’t worth paying for. Stop framing people that don’t use A.I. as luddites with an ax to grind just because tech bros spent billions on a product that isn’t good yet.

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      It’s fair to say that the environmental and ethical concerns are significant and I wouldn’t look down in anyone refusing to use AI for those reasons. I don’t look down on vegetarians or vegans either - I don’t have to agree with someone’s moral stance or choices to respect them.

      But you’re right, LLMs are full of crap.

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      For most people, this isn’t a moral stance, it’s just that the product isn’t worth paying for.

      Wait till you see the price of a burger in another five years.

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      You only notice AI-generated content when it’s bad/obvious, but you’d never notice the AI-generated content that’s so good it’s indistinguishable from something generated by a human.

      I don’t know what percentage of the “good” content we see is AI-generated, but it’s probably more than 0 and will probably go up over time.

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      25 days ago

      I just don’t use it because it’s shit and doesn’t do anything I need any better than I can do myself in the same time.

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    23 days ago

    Im also a gun vegan, a car vegan, a facebook vegan, an exercise vegan (unfortunately), a windows vegan, … just not actual vegan.

    I feel like thats a bad way to use the word vegan.

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    24 days ago

    We let environmentalism become an individual issue, and that was a mistake. Can we not do this for AI? It’s a society-wide problem, not something you can solve by measuring your own personal AI footprint.

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    So I’m not the only one who refuses to touch it?

    Around me and everywhere it’s getting insane that it feels like there’s literally no one who hasn’t used it or use regularly for all kinds of shit.

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    This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. Refusing to submit to corpo ratfuckery isn’t a lifestyle choice. It’s common sense.