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    6 days ago

    I don’t think many even know what a communist is or what communism is about. it just makes them feel upset when they hear the word because of constant corporate mass media conditioning.

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      Communism is the government owning the means of production. Socialism is the people owning the means.

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        Socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. Communism is a post-socialist mode of production where all of production has been collectivized globally, the commodity form fully abolished, etc.

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    I think Americans are well past the point of blaming this on communism.

    There’s still a kinda fear of “socialism” and other stuff as specters, but it’s internal. I don’t think many here are looking at shit that’s going down locally and saying “…Damn Russkies.” I haven’t seen that once IRL since like 2016. Even mega Trumpers I know are looking inward (at Democrats); that’s kinda the point of the movement, and those I knew who were a little Cold War nostalgic have, sadly, passed away.

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      6 days ago

      then lemmy is sampling all the stupidest libs to me, because blaming russians and chinese for their problems with trump and capitalism is the most common argument in lib lemmy posts and accounts.

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      You have Trump doing Hitler 2.0 electric boogaloo and Bernie call it Stalinist cult come one

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      Nah.

      Look at everyone attacking Mamdani, ethno fascists, techbros, liberals…

      Its pretty much all ‘he is a big bad scary communist.’

      He is of course not actually a communist, but even an actual socdem is so far to the left of the American Overton Window, the only vocab words that exist are ‘commie! socialist! which are the same thing, or something!’

      Granted, the fact that Mamdani has significant public support means that there are more Americans who are more left-wing … but the actual Dem leadership, as with Bernie, cannot countenance losing their corpo megadonors, so they pull out the stops for anything left of … rainbow capitalism.

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      I don’t think many here are looking at shit that’s going down locally and saying “…Damn Russkies.”

      What? “Damn Russkies!” is like the number one thing hardcore Democrat supporters blame for the state of the US

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        And for good reason, Russia has had a singular leadership for going on 30+ years while America is in disarray every four, you don’t thinkthey have plans, long-term plans to stabilize the United States through many different means and ways

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      My neighbor blames every current problem on democrats by saying “they are communist” as his main point.

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      Excuse me?? How could you not notice all the Russophobia and Sinophobia? The russophobia crap got really bad when Russia finally decided to do something about the Nazi Regime in Ukraine propped up by the US empire in 2014

      The anti-china crap has been present for years now

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        My blunt observation. People here in the US don’t care.

        They voted a somewhat pro-Russian, Ukraine isolationist into power, and didn’t give a shit. Trump flip flopped, and they didn’t give a shit about that either. It didn’t move approval ratings one. Hair.

        So you can keep saying the Big Bad American People have it out for Russia, that they cheer on Ukraine from their TVs. But on the ground here? They do. Not. Care. Frankly, if they were more educated, my racist family would bucket both Ukrainians and Russians as “white” and be largely indifferent to the war, as it’s not happening on US soil. They liked Trump reaching out to Putin for a peace deal. What keeps them up at night is brown people flooding over the border, tearing down Seattle or whatever Fox or Rumble is blaring. Or, more realistically, our country teetering on Civil War from internal polarization. Not China or Russia vs Ukraine or Taiwan.

        So you can blame the not-quite-extinct neolibs and the government, I guess, but:

        Russophobia and Sinophobia

        IRL, as much as people (bots?) banter online, I have not personally heard one peep about Russophobia in years. We just aren’t that educated on foreign policy, nor into it like the Bush era. And the Sinophobia stops at “deport the foreign asians.”

        Again, this is not my opinion or personal belief. Just my observation from the US.

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    And what is capitalism, or communism, or socialism? I feel like there are different definitions of those things.

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      Capitalism is a mode of production largely defined as one where private ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and commodity production is the main form.

      Socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect, and is more planned and controlled.

      Communism is a post-socialist, global system that is fully collectivized and planned.