I think Americans are well past the point of blaming this on communism.
There’s still a kinda fear of “socialism” and other stuff as specters, but it’s internal. I don’t think many here are looking at shit that’s going down locally and saying “…Damn Russkies.” I haven’t seen that once IRL since like 2016. Even mega Trumpers I know are looking inward (at Democrats); that’s kinda the point of the movement, and those I knew who were a little Cold War nostalgic have, sadly, passed away.
then lemmy is sampling all the stupidest libs to me, because blaming russians and chinese for their problems with trump and capitalism is the most common argument in lib lemmy posts and accounts.
It’s not a great analogy, to be fair, but I don’t think Bernie was trying to single out Stalin, who did indeed have an unwaveringly loyal following, to the point of being problematic.
Look at everyone attacking Mamdani, ethno fascists, techbros, liberals…
Its pretty much all ‘he is a big bad scary communist.’
He is of course not actually a communist, but even an actual socdem is so far to the left of the American Overton Window, the only vocab words that exist are ‘commie! socialist! which are the same thing, or something!’
Granted, the fact that Mamdani has significant public support means that there are more Americans who are more left-wing … but the actual Dem leadership, as with Bernie, cannot countenance losing their corpo megadonors, so they pull out the stops for anything left of … rainbow capitalism.
And for good reason, Russia has had a singular leadership for going on 30+ years while America is in disarray every four, you don’t thinkthey have plans, long-term plans to stabilize the United States through many different means and ways
Excuse me?? How could you not notice all the Russophobia and Sinophobia? The russophobia crap got really bad when Russia finally decided to do something about the Nazi Regime in Ukraine propped up by the US empire in 2014
The anti-china crap has been present for years now
My blunt observation. People here in the US don’t care.
They voted a somewhat pro-Russian, Ukraine isolationist into power, and didn’t give a shit. Trump flip flopped, and they didn’t give a shit about that either. It didn’t move approval ratings one. Hair.
So you can keep saying the Big Bad American People have it out for Russia, that they cheer on Ukraine from their TVs. But on the ground here? They do. Not. Care. Frankly, if they were more educated, my racist family would bucket both Ukrainians and Russians as “white” and be largely indifferent to the war, as it’s not happening on US soil. They liked Trump reaching out to Putin for a peace deal. What keeps them up at night is brown people flooding over the border, tearing down Seattle or whatever Fox or Rumble is blaring. Or, more realistically, our country teetering on Civil War from internal polarization. Not China or Russia vs Ukraine or Taiwan.
So you can blame the not-quite-extinct neolibs and the government, I guess, but:
Russophobia and Sinophobia
IRL, as much as people (bots?) banter online, I have not personally heard one peep about Russophobia in years. We just aren’t that educated on foreign policy, nor into it like the Bush era. And the Sinophobia stops at “deport the foreign asians.”
Again, this is not my opinion or personal belief. Just my observation from the US.
I think Americans are well past the point of blaming this on communism.
There’s still a kinda fear of “socialism” and other stuff as specters, but it’s internal. I don’t think many here are looking at shit that’s going down locally and saying “…Damn Russkies.” I haven’t seen that once IRL since like 2016. Even mega Trumpers I know are looking inward (at Democrats); that’s kinda the point of the movement, and those I knew who were a little Cold War nostalgic have, sadly, passed away.
then lemmy is sampling all the stupidest libs to me, because blaming russians and chinese for their problems with trump and capitalism is the most common argument in lib lemmy posts and accounts.
Yeah, Lemmy does not represent the average liberal in the US, not even close.
You have Trump doing Hitler 2.0 electric boogaloo and Bernie call it Stalinist cult come one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin's_cult_of_personality
It’s not a great analogy, to be fair, but I don’t think Bernie was trying to single out Stalin, who did indeed have an unwaveringly loyal following, to the point of being problematic.
Again. It is not really about Russia.
HITLER 2.0 ELETRIC BOOGALOO. How about compare it to a facist??? Mussolini? Hitlerite cult?
But Berine brain after hearing too many gun shot in schools compare it to a communist first, personifying the meme. Well past it my ass.
Using Hitlerite cult would’ve been more apt, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_cult_of_personality
Nah.
Look at everyone attacking Mamdani, ethno fascists, techbros, liberals…
Its pretty much all ‘he is a big bad scary communist.’
He is of course not actually a communist, but even an actual socdem is so far to the left of the American Overton Window, the only vocab words that exist are ‘commie! socialist! which are the same thing, or something!’
Granted, the fact that Mamdani has significant public support means that there are more Americans who are more left-wing … but the actual Dem leadership, as with Bernie, cannot countenance losing their corpo megadonors, so they pull out the stops for anything left of … rainbow capitalism.
What? “Damn Russkies!” is like the number one thing hardcore Democrat supporters blame for the state of the US
And for good reason, Russia has had a singular leadership for going on 30+ years while America is in disarray every four, you don’t thinkthey have plans, long-term plans to stabilize the United States through many different means and ways
Modern Judeo-Bolshevik conspiracy theory.
What are you like 18
What an odd response
My neighbor blames every current problem on democrats by saying “they are communist” as his main point.
I wish they were, they aren’t cool enough.
Excuse me?? How could you not notice all the Russophobia and Sinophobia? The russophobia crap got really bad when Russia finally decided to do something about the Nazi Regime in Ukraine propped up by the US empire in 2014
The anti-china crap has been present for years now
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My blunt observation. People here in the US don’t care.
They voted a somewhat pro-Russian, Ukraine isolationist into power, and didn’t give a shit. Trump flip flopped, and they didn’t give a shit about that either. It didn’t move approval ratings one. Hair.
So you can keep saying the Big Bad American People have it out for Russia, that they cheer on Ukraine from their TVs. But on the ground here? They do. Not. Care. Frankly, if they were more educated, my racist family would bucket both Ukrainians and Russians as “white” and be largely indifferent to the war, as it’s not happening on US soil. They liked Trump reaching out to Putin for a peace deal. What keeps them up at night is brown people flooding over the border, tearing down Seattle or whatever Fox or Rumble is blaring. Or, more realistically, our country teetering on Civil War from internal polarization. Not China or Russia vs Ukraine or Taiwan.
So you can blame the not-quite-extinct neolibs and the government, I guess, but:
IRL, as much as people (bots?) banter online, I have not personally heard one peep about Russophobia in years. We just aren’t that educated on foreign policy, nor into it like the Bush era. And the Sinophobia stops at “deport the foreign asians.”
Again, this is not my opinion or personal belief. Just my observation from the US.