also fuck Donald Trump, illiterate pedophile fuck.
Tim Nvidia will be pissed
Good.
Now tell nvidia they can continue if they play nice with linux and use it as a bribe. And then call Adobe…
How easy it was to make you aggree with trump.
This is the guy who, as president, literally asked “who knew health care was so complicated”. And more recently, he thought he could waltz in any stop the fighting in the Middle East just by telling Israel and Palestine to get along, then threw a hissy fit when that didn’t work.
How anyone takes this man seriously or thinks he’s anything but a complete moron is beyond me. Not knowing what the fuck he’s doing is literally his only move.
Art of the Deal
Apart from the fact that Trump is a pedophile, rapist, fascist, and a criminal, he and his entire administration are also incredibly incompetent.
This is a clickbait headline from Tom’s, as that’s not how the speech was worded. Per their own cherry picked quotes
Trump continued, "I said, ‘Who the hell is he? What’s his name?’ 'His name is Jensen Huang, Nvidia, ’ I said, ‘What the hell is Nvidia?’ I’ve never heard of it before.
The context being he had never really heard of Nvidia before they got so high profile, like most of the US population.
Tom’s does this all the time; they’re notorious for it in the PC Hardware news community.
Yes Trump is an idiot and his speeches are stupid, but can we please not have ragebait stretching it even more?
I’m sorry to keep bringing this up and getting so sour, but I feel like Lemmy’s information hygiene is deteriorating, and we’re happily upvoting it away. Big community mods need to put their foots down and put up basic soft rules, like:
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Link the original source (in this case the NBC video), link the place you found it in the description if you wish.
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Check the Wikipedia perennial news table (which, to be fair, Tom’s isn’t in yet): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources
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Try to avoid ragebait
Trying to put Trump quotes into context is like trying to read a Pollock, it’s not possible and it’s not supposed to be. Your interpretation really didn’t change any of the meaning for me, and it certainly didn’t contradict the headline.
Here’s the actual video source, skipped to the relevant context:
https://youtu.be/BrTT7dX0mcQ?t=851
And if you don’t want that, a clip of the auto transcript I ripped from YouTube:
…And a very special thanks to some of the top industry leaders including somebody that’s amazing. I said, “Look, we’ll break this guy up.” This is before I learned the facts of life. I said, “We’ll break them up.” They said, “No, sir. It’s very hard.” I said, “Why?” I said, “What percentages of the market does he have?” I said, “He has 100%.” I said, “Who the hell is he? What’s his name?” His name is Jensen Wong. Nvidia. I said, “What the hell is Nvidia? I’ve never heard of it before.” He said, “You don’t want to know about it, sir.” I figured we could go in and we could sort of break them up a little bit, get them a little competition. And I found out it’s not easy in that business. I said, “Supposing we put the greatest minds together. They work hand in hand for a couple of years.” He said, “No, it would take at least 10 years to catch him if he ran Nvidia totally incompetently from now on.” So, I said, “All right, let’s go on to the next one.” And then I got to know Jensen, and now I see why. Jensen, will you stand up? What a job. What a job you’ve done, man. Great. It’s a great He’s a great guy, too. Lisa…
Trump’s clearly referencing learning about Nvidia in the past, and getting to know Jensen. He’s telling a story about pondering breaking up Nvidia and putting together a government chip development effort before he learned the finer details on what they do. Tom’s headline, on the other hand:
President Trump threatened to break up Nvidia, didn’t even know what it was — ‘What the hell is Nvidia? I’ve never heard of it before’
Is worded to imply Trump ‘threatened’ Nvidia blindly, or that he didn’t know who Nvidia is during or just before the speech, cherry picking a quote with no context. It’s technically plausibly deniable.
Call it what you want, but that is classic tabloid journalism from Tom’s.
The headline contradicts what Trump was saying. It sort of contradicts their own article.
If it was so clear, we wouldn’t be having this conversation because I disagree. Like I said, even all that context doesn’t actually give any context because nothing Trump says really has any meaning. When he says something happened “in the past”, it could mean it happened at literally any time previously, it could mean he expects it to happen soon and as such is an inevitability so he just says it already happened, it could mean it never happened and never will. But even taking him at his word, nothing from that “context” makes me any less likely to believe he found out what Nvidia was minutes before taking the stage. And even if he did know what Nvidia was “in the past”, he did try to break it up without knowing what it was, so where’s the contradiction? I don’t see how that headline is implying any kind of timeframe, inaccurate or otherwise.
nothing Trump says really has any meaning.
This is reductive. Why report on anything he says then? But for the sake of argument let’s go with that.
When he says something happened “in the past”, it could mean it happened at literally any time previously, it could mean he expects it to happen soon and as such is an inevitability so he just says it already happened
So how do you go from that to concluding:
othing from that “context” makes me any less likely to believe he found out what Nvidia was minutes before taking the stage
You’re not making any sense. You’re saying “nothing Trump says really has any meaning,” effectively refuting his whole quote, while somehow holding up the conclusion that he “found out what Nvidia was minutes before taking the stage” with, per your own standards you just emphasized, zero evidence, out of thin air.
So which is it? Is his whole quote invalid?
You very conveniently left out the “But taking him at his word” part of my comment, which kind of negates everything you’re complaining about. See, that’s a good example of taking a quote out of context and changing the meaning, unlike this headline. I do agree that we shouldn’t report onanything he says though, just report on the administration’s actions.
THANK YOU. I’ve said many times, lemmy will upvote anything they believe to be true without a second thought. Then we turn around and make fun of gullible Boomers on FaceBook.
Around 1999 I learned to fact check if a headline or meme sounded crazy. Still applies today y’all!
Twitter did exactly one thing right, and it’s community notes. Lemmy could definitely use a feature like that where the users can provide context that corrects clickbait headlines. Other than comments of course.
On the backend, Twitter must use some kind of (pre-LLM) language model to aggregate the sentiment of comments? I’ve never used Twitter before; how is it generated? Do mods post it or something?
Lemmy could theoretically do that, but it’d either have to hit an API, host it with their server resources, or lean on potentially power-tripping/busy human mods to do it.
I’m not sure how they do it. I’d be super interested to know.
Well, ML is kinda toxic right now, and even a hint of “let’s draft community notes with a language model” is going to be shot down by the huge fediverse anti-AI community. So I think that’s, unfortunately, a non-starter.
And again, mods purely doing it would be problematic.
It seems like a great idea to me, but I’m just not sure how it would be implemented.
Yeah. To be fair, everyone’s gotta slowly learn that.
But I think it’s fair for communities/mods to lay down posting standards, unless it’s like an explicit shitposting community.
100%.
Frequently Lemmy left users appear as deluded as Trump supporters with their foaming at the mouth support for anything and everything anti Trump.
It’s like hating Trump is a personality trait now, it’s fucking sad.
Thanks for outting yourself. I haven’t blocked anyone here lately.
Guessing you already blocked me, but are you suggesting I’m a Trump supporter?
It’s also how we got Trump. We overfed the troll.
I mean, I don’t have a problem with hating Trump being a personality trait. explain why I should like him, he represents everything I despise and is making my country somehow am even bigger laughing stock of the world. Now I obviously know this is a problem with American elites…far beyond trump but he’s effectively the CEO of the country and as such would be the person to blame.Just as they like to say Biden this Obama that Clinton this other thing…not that any of it matters anyways because obviously one single person doesn’t control much anyways as people should know
I mean I think he’s a character and fun to watch sometimes, but that’s about it. don’t really know how you can make Trump look worse than he already does with his hateful vile words and disgraceful record. he’s brought a new level of corruption to an already corrupt office, which I find quite astounding
I can’t see how anyone would be like, ‘why are people so quickly anti trump’ if you ask me-- noone with braincells and good intentions should be supporting him (or the Dems for that matter)! but certainly not an administration that is actively covering up one of the greatest child trafficking rings in modern history.
sorry for the rant but I just truley do not get this take 😭
I’d be more shocked if I came to lemmy and it read like r/conservatives
Uhhh what do you think my take is?
Because that’s exactly what Trump supporters do: don’t think critically, just blindly, loyally assume the opposition must always be incorrect.
It’s not about supporting him or not, it has nothing to do with that. It’s about seeing through objectively false posts (often posted for money, attention, or simply from gut feelings) and people cheering them on, which is exactly what has empowered Trump and given his supporters something to point to painting them as victims of lies.
You should set aside any thought about Trump and look at the material first. That’s critical thinking, in a nutshell.
Or you can play the engagement hate game that got that man into office.
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This felon rapist pedo is tanking fast.
😭😭😭 needs to go faster
Please take away Chrome and Andriod from Google first, please. Thank you.
You have to be kidding me. Mr AI president doesn’t know Nvidia? Their stock like quadrupled in value because of AI
Let him cook that one though
Whenever a company has reached a critical size or control of the market that it is no longer incentived to serve the interests of its customers and starts serving its shareholder’s instead, it should be broken up. This is the only way you will see actual innovation and positive growth again.
Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Nvidia, Meta are only a few in a long list that are long overdue to be broken up.
That being said, Trump is more believably saying that to scare them into giving him a bride. He just pulled his head out of his ass just enough to hear about a “new” company with deep pockets and smelled the money.
some people on this thread need to understand that two things can be true,
the headline can be misleading yea but it can also not really matter
in other words, I’m the grand totality of all the actually harmful things he has said and actions he is doing… this feels like a nothing burger to me lollll. So people think he can just wear his little fingers and Nvidia magically breaks up? even if he goes after th administratively, it’s not like Nvidia would just roll over 😭it’s just absurd to even take this seriously in the first place imo. idk I think it’s funny people are debating about what he actually said when it doesn’t really matter, dudes going senile and Nvidia is gigantic corporation that can defend itself and also fuck it I wouldn’t mind if they got broken up tbh. people will find whatever to argue about
Oh neat, the tech flavored distraction, place your bets on whats next. My bet is he tried that freedom fries shit again.
I smell another “lawsuit” that is totally legit guys I swear, and NVidia just happens to settle out of court with DJT to the tune of millions even though every laywer/judge on the planet says the case is without merit. Move along, justice working as expected.
Fun
