• PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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      It don’t though, it just rises the price of energy because the gas still flows, even more than before, just from USA, Norway and yes, sill Russia, even more of it, but through middlemen. The sabotage also caused significant ecological catastrophe in the Baltic.

      About the sabotage itself you have three versions available:

      1. Truth, that USA bombed it, possibly with participation of Norway (note above paragraph, curiously the very same countries that gained the most on it, qui bono, eh?)
      2. USA version, where Ukraine did it, despite lacking means
      3. Official German/EU version, that is no version, because both above versions means that Germany is either vassal (ver1) or war ally (ver2) of country which attacked Germany in a biggest peacetime sabotage in German history.
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          Bullshit. German politics is riddled with the same talking points as the US. Just today i read a german article talking about a “german roe v wade”

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          Republicans just convinced Europe that the USA cannot be trusted anymore

          FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US”.

          What?

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              You literally just said that it was because of Republicans that the EU soured on the US and now you’re telling me that in the EU you don’t look at which party is in charge but at the US as a whole. Do you not see how these statements are contradictory?

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                  Ok? The significance of the clip I posted was not that it was Biden saying it but what he said he would do (and very likely did). Why did that prompt you say, “FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US?””

                  The reason I posted that clip was to establish the reason why I believe the US blew up the pipeline. Yes, it happens to be Biden in that clip, but you’re the one who started talking about distinguishing between Trump and Biden and then about not distinguishing between Trump and Biden. I’m just talking about the US.

                  The only thing I can think of is that you’re trying to preemptively shift the NordStream thing away from Biden and onto the US in general as a way of deflecting blame from Biden. But again, I just brought it up to establish US policy on NordStream, not specifically to bash Biden. If it’s not that, then I just straight up don’t understand you at all.