Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name

    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 days ago

      Yep, its been obvious to those who’ve been paying attention / not fanboy fellating Musk’s cock every day… it’s been obvious for a solid decade that he is a lying, petty, temperamental, narcissistic con artist.

      Now he’s just worse.

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        9 days ago

        Not the person you replied to, but someone else that has always seen him as a dumbass.

        I first became aware of him from a cameo in an Iron Man movie, which was aroun the time all of his ridiculously over the top and unrealistic goals was gaining media traction. His backstory was claiming the work of others, like his brief stint with PayPal. He was an obvious hype man, who believed his own hype. His fucking boast of putting humans on Mars in a short time frame was obviously overconfident bullshitting. Didn’t he end up putting a car in orbit, or some dumb shit instead?

        This was all proven accurate with the hyperloop as originally reported having massive obvious issues beyond the science, such as needing land rights. Then as it transitioned into a shitty car tunnel it was more entertaining as it went on. He acted like he founded Tesla and took credit for shit he didn’t do while making sure to insert fart horns and other childish crap like trying to spell out sexy with the model numbers, but failing to get the ‘E’ so went with 3. Plus he insisted on keeping the auto driving camera only, like a dumbass.

        He will always do some grand thing next year even though he has made the same promise for a decade. He was always a obvious snake oil salesman whose primary success was getting government welfare to prop up his businesses. His humor has always fallen flat. Naming his kids by itself was a huge sign of how much of a dumbass he is.

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    I guess that tracks because Thanos is stupid as fuck.

    Trying to solve the resource problem by killing half of the universe just doesn’t help. In a couple of decades, the population would be back to the previous number.

    He could just snap his fingers and make those missing resources appear. Whole empty planets for people to live with abundance etc.

    It feels like he thought of the problem for like one minute and decided to take the easiest short term solution possible.

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      If you get into the actual comic books, you’ll find out that Tony Stark is regularly portrayed as a sex pest, a substance abuser, and an outspoken fascist.

      But, unlike the real Elon Musk, I don’t believe he’s ever been written as “full of pee”. Incidentally, ketamine abuse does result in bladder ulcers that leak urine into your body until you are quite literally poisoning yourself with your own urine.

      Just something to think about.

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        7 days ago

        how fast is this poisoning process because it’s taking some sweet fucking time right now

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    8 days ago

    Sexually harassing his employees hit the headlines in 2016; rumours before that. Inserting himself into the Thai cave rescue and the “pedo guy” slander was 2018. Hyperloop was 2013. No Lidar on Tesla. If you’ve been paying attention he’s been outing himself for a long time.

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    I remember in the very early days not getting the full ‘hype’ of “MUSK IS SO SMART”, but I enjoyed him as a “This is what happens when some ordinary dweeb becomes incredibly wealthy - he wants to throw money at space and technology. That’s neat.”

    His PR guys must’ve done a good job at keeping the worst of his tendencies behind closed doors - or at least further than most casual observers would look. Around the time of the ‘pedo guy’ incident it began to unravel for me. Curious that a social media addiction undid all the work of his PR team.

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      8 days ago

      I think he genuinely changed as well though. Sure, some of the stuff people believe was obviously wrong in hindsight, but his unhinged tweets just weren’t a thing 10 years ago.

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        Yeah, he was always an idiot, but I remember reading a super interesting article about how he accidentally radicalized himself when he changed X’s algorithm. He tweaked it to be far right, and radicalized himself because he’s one of the most active users on the platform. FAFO.

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        Here’s the Blue MAGA hindsight.
        And this gets deleted by the mods here for ‘no politics’.
        As if the post itself isn’t.
        Hypocrites

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        8 days ago

        The way he removed the original founders of Tesla and have himself the title of founder says otherwise, he was never a nice human being.

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      8 days ago

      I enjoyed him as a “This is what happens when some ordinary dweeb extremely privileged racist becomes incredibly wealthy

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    Musk was already a notoriously lying grifter 10 year ago.

    It’s only naive fanboys who were too immature be able to set aside the natural human tendency to look up to famous people and/or did not had the life experience to recognize and be suspicious of salesman bollocks (whether decorated with techie terms or otherwise) when they heard it that didn’t suspect the guy was something else than what the adoring fans thought.

    It’s not by chance that Musk’s fanboys were mainly young adult and teen techies.

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      I was never a fanboy, but 10 years ago I had hope that he and his companies would make the world a better place.

      I never looked much into him as a person, but the promise of neat electric cars and humans living on Mars made it seem like the world was on a decent trajectory.

      I was obviously naive in hindsight, but on the surface everything seemed to be fine.

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        Well, a decade ago I had hope too, but also already felt the guy was fishy (because he already had a history of overpromising and under-delivering and in the areas I was an expert in, I had spotted him outright lying) and so was skeptical about his promises and his companies. Also, having been involved in Tech Startups, my expectation from people in his position and his language were already negative since the Startup World back then was already dominated by scam artists with a salesmanship or Finance backgrund for whom Tech was a vehicle for self-enrichment, not by idealists who loved challenges or the actual Tech.

        Also by that point I had already spent a good period in Investment Finance and could recognize a certain style of bollocks a mile away.

        I wasn’t aware of just how much a shit person the guy was, but all my instints told me he was a sociopath who would only ever do anything better for the World if it made him more money than not doing it.

      • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        All of his companies are complete garbage. Cars are a disgusting privilege literally destroying the planet. Colonizing space is a grift that does absolutely nothing for regular people on earth. Paypal jfc… Etc.

        Never had a chance of changing the world for a better place. Didn’t even try.

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    9 days ago

    ITT: people saying they always knew

    What I am upvoting: people talking about how their perception of him changed

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      I have a not-quite-physics degree (I could not mentally bring myself to do the proper physics capstone, but I basically have a physics degree.) I have had multiple conversations with astrophysicists, astronauts, and people who know their shit.

      It has always been abundantly clear to me that he has been full of shit. I had to play coy a lot because I had some association with NASA, but the man does not know shit about rockets or physics and it’s always been abundantly clear to anyone who does.

      I doubt he could do a simple kinematics problem.

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        8 days ago

        You could have let this be a top-level comment, but you chose to make it directly a response to mine about how I’m interested in hearing about people who didn’t always know. Why did you do that.

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    I pat the people on the back for calling him out all those years ago. I have always been indifferent to him to be honest, until five years ago he tried to interfere in the rescue of Thai school children who got stuck in underwater cave, and calling the rescue divers pedo. Some time after that, I remember telling my ex-colleague of mine who fanboys Elon that it is not necessarily I don’t like Elon, but that I don’t trust him after the incident. He got offended after I mentioned I distrust Elon, and I was surprised that he hasn’t heard of Elon’s childish spat with the rescue divers. Fast forward to now, I wonder what my former colleague thinks of Elon now.

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    I thought it was cool that he was making space ships and EVs. I like space. I like EVs. Guess I was naïve.

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    9 days ago

    He has been a scumbag since forever.
    From the Thai ‘pedophile’ incident to wanting to keep his factories open in peak Covid times under Biden.
    All was OK when he served blue MAGA.
    Hypocrites