It’s silly to compare Switch 2 sales to Steam Deck sales.

The Switch 2 is a locked-down, vertically integrated platform. There are no ROG Switch 2s. No Lenovo Switch 2s. No Switch laptops or tower PCs with discrete GPUs. If you want to play Mario Kart World, your only option is to buy a Switch 2. Period.

Steam Deck, by contrast, isn’t a platform. It’s just one hardware option—one entry point into the sprawling, open ecosystem known as PC gaming.

Every year, around 245 million PCs are shipped globally. If even 20–25% of those are gaming-focused, that’s 49–61 million gaming PCs annually. Steam Deck is a sliver of that. So of course it won’t outsell a console that’s the only gateway to a major IP.

But that’s exactly the point.

PC gaming is too decentralized for any single device to dominate. The last “PC” that did was the Commodore 64, which sold 12.5–17 million units over 12 years because it was a self-contained platform, unlike modern Windows, Mac, or Linux machines.

That the Steam Deck has sold 4 million units despite competing with every other gaming PC in existence is remarkable. It didn’t just sell—it legitimized a category. Handheld PC gaming is now a thing. That’s why Lenovo, ASUS, and MSI have followed. Even Microsoft is getting in, optimizing Windows for handhelds—something they would never have done if the Steam Deck didn’t hold their feet to the fire.

So no, Steam Deck didn’t outsell the Switch 2. It didn’t need to.

It won by changing the landscape.

  • Stovetop@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    Console wars stopped being cool years ago. Everyone has their preferences and favorites, no need to shit on someone’s fun because you think yours is better.

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      21 days ago

      There’s no hate for Nintendo here, just explaining why Steam Deck is different.

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        21 days ago

        Sorry, should’ve clarified that this isn’t directed towards you, OP! Just at a lot of the other comments in here who are acting like someone else’s decision to buy an expensive gadget is a personal insult to them.

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      21 days ago

      Its unfair to call it a “console war” when one is a classic locked down console and another is a general handheld computer. This also means there are bigger societal stakes in this argument than just “which corporate flavor you like more” because one empowers people and the other does the exact opposite.

      So no, “console wars” here are very much cool.

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    What kind of idiots are comparing the two? They’re different things with entirely different markets. There was never a battle to be had lol

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      It’s funny you say this, because for 500 bucks I am actually debating between the two as my Christmas present to myself this year.

      I think I’d prefer a Steam Deck for no particular reason. 🏴‍☠️

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        22 days ago

        They are competitors on a personal level as many people only have the time or money to fit one of them into their lives. But by that definition cycling or golfing is also a competitor and nobody would write an article about how bikes outsold the Steam Deck.

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    21 days ago

    The funniest thing is that Nintendo buyers are not even part of this conversation LMAO 🤣

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    Actually you will be able to play switch two games on PC. It’s only a matter of time so no your only option isn’t just switch two. It’s patience 😜

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    I stopped buying consoles and moved pretty much exclusively to Steam because it gives me many more options. Thankfully, I don’t think that’s changing anytime soon. Consoles are great for some people, but I need more flexibility. I sometimes wish I could (legally) play Nintendo first party games, but it’s really not that big of a deal.

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    21 days ago

    I loved my steam deck, but it was too chunky for me and certainly for my kid.

    My compromise is Anbernic type devices. Long battery life, better form factor, lots of ported games too.

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    In 1999, the SEGA Dreamcast was the fastest selling video game console when it launched. In 24 hours, it sold a little over 225k units (which was massive for the tiny gamer population of 1999). This earned it the Guinness World Record for Most Revenue Generated in the Entertainment Industry in 24 Hours.

    Console sales at launch literally don’t matter.

    Also, I wonder how many of those were sold to scalpers that plan on returning them if they cannot sell them?

    EDIT: For reference, the PlayStation 1 sold 300k consoles in Japan only when it launched, but not in 24 hours, that 300k is for the entire launch month of December 1994, per Sony’s own official business data.

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    22 days ago

    I hadn’t even thought about it until you brought it up. Kind of disappointed in people jumping on this like flies on shit but like… it’s 2025, so bigger things to be upset about.

    In any case, apples and oranges. And PSA, if you need a Switch 2, grab em on the rebound. There’ll be used ones, likely hackable in 6 months and none of that goes to Nintendo. Don’t forget what their legal department has done in the past few years.

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    Also, for what its worth, the OLED Decks literally sold out today, as in, Valve doesn’t currently have any more to sell in the US.

    https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/06/supply-chain-issues-are-making-the-steam-deck-oled-go-out-of-stock/

    Also also… I realize this is a silly comparison, but the Switch 2 has not outsold all variants of the Deck, yet.

    Its at about 3.5 million, Steam Deck is at about 4.5 million since 2022.

    Also x3, the Switch 2 is apparently already sold out as well, as in no more units available at US retailers.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/nintendo-switch-console-record-sales.html

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    So no, Steam Deck didn’t outsell the Switch 2. It didn’t need to.

    I don’t disagree with the sentiment. I would still consider the Steam Deck a “failure” if it couldn’t move enough units to justify its production cost, but it looks like they’re still churning them out, so… eh, it’s not great but its fine.

    I would argue that merely comparing generic PC sales to Switch sales also misses the mark. At the very least, you’d focus on unique Steam installs or Active Steam Accounts if you’re really interested in counting the success of Steam relative to Nintendo.

    Even then, what you’re really competing with isn’t “SteamDeck sales v. Switch sales”. I’d say its “SteamDeck sales per $1 advertising spent v. …” Given that Nintendo spent around $730M in advertising last year and Valve spent under $100M, it seems that Nintendo has to spend roughly $50/unit to move a Switch relative to Valve coming in closer to $40/unit.

    It’s very difficult to compare popularity under two wildly divergent marketing strategies.

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      But I don’t feel that Steam alone accounts for PC gaming.

      Even on my Steam Deck, I use GOG, Epic, and itch.io quite regularly.

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        But I don’t feel that Steam alone accounts for PC gaming.

        If we’re putting the SteamDeck against Nintendo, I’d say the natural comparison is Steam exclusives against Nintendo exclusives.

        Even on my Steam Deck, I use GOG, Epic, and itch.io quite regularly.

        Sure. Because it is functionally just a computer with a Valve-branded Linux distro. But there are PC games ported to Mobile. I’m not going to count all Android phones to the “PC” side of the aisle just because I can install Balatro on my OnePlus.

        The whole reason the Steam Deck exists is to compete as a portable full sized hand-held console comparable to the Switch. If you’re not talking about portable consoles, you’re not really talking apples-to-apples. Anyone crammed into the coach end on an airplane can tell you the quality of life difference between a gaming laptop and a hand-held.

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          21 days ago

          If we’re putting the SteamDeck against Nintendo, I’d say the natural comparison is Steam exclusives against Nintendo exclusives.

          This makes no sense because as you just mentioned, the Steam Deck is just a Valve-branded Linux distro. Really, what we should be doing is counting PC exclusives. And I say PC because Proton makes the difference between Windows and Linux moot – Steam Deck plays Windows games, often better than Windows itself.

          If we’re talking exclusives, there are way more on PC than on Switch.

          The whole reason the Steam Deck exists is to compete as a portable full sized hand-held console comparable to the Switch.

          No, the whole reason the Steam Deck exists is to play your PC games on a handheld, and do it with a console-like experience.

          What I feel you don’t understand – and I can’t emphasize this enough – is that there are games I’ve always wanted to play on a console that I just couldn’t because they required either a desktop or laptop. Off the top of my head, here’s just a few:

          • Blood
          • Septerra Core
          • Jazz Jackrabbit
          • Fate
          • AquaNox

          You know how many times I wanted those games to get ported to console? Decades later, it still hasn’t happened.

          What the Steam Deck does is make games that were previously inaccessible – available on handheld and TV (via dock).

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    21 days ago

    There is a reason why i call all these handheld gaming pcs as decks or gaming decks.

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    Lol what comical copium.

    They are both handheld gaming devices. To claim otherwise is nothing more than an ideological feature that only matters to 2% of thr market.