• xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 hours ago

    homeless people find sitting in the shade of trees to be comfortable, and the city whole point of urban design is to make them uncomfortable and to suffer

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    8 hours ago

    I think it’s probably cheaper in the long run to self host a tree instead, unless you live in an apartment with absolutely no green space. But I’d rather get a VPF and host a tree there if I had too

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    13 hours ago

    Short answer: the bank won’t give your shiny new tree-planting business a loan as easily as it will to a “liquid tank tree replacement” one.

    Long answer:

    • Trees take time to grow
    • Trees need to be planted
    • Trees make shade
    • Animals like birds and insects like bees and mosquitos like to live next to them
    • Trees don’t need electricity
    • Trees take in heat radiated from the pavement
    • Trees don’t look cool

    While algae are more efficient at turning CO2 into oxygen in theory, in practice algae don’t have a good climate in such a tank (no oxygen without ventilation, i.e. constant electricity and they get cooked through the glass).

    All in all, more of a gimmick than anything.

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      10 hours ago
      • Trees take time to grow

      Sure, of course not removing literally all of them in the first place is preferable but hindsight is 20/20 I guess. And good things come to those who wait.

      • Trees need to be planted

      True, planting a tree seems a bit easier than installing a weird tank though, despite time to grow.

      • Trees make shade

      Good.

      • Animals like birds and insects like bees and mosquitos like to live next to them

      Good.

      • Trees don’t need electricity

      Good.

      • Trees take in heat radiated from the pavement

      Good.

      • Trees don’t look cool

      Bullshit.

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      12 hours ago

      Aren’t like half of those bullet points positives? Also in addition to what you said once you got a tree you got a tree, those tanks need constant maintenence and cycling which I doubt anyone is going to bother with for more than a year after installing them.

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        12 hours ago

        The comment you replying to was trying to not so subtly point out this is a business plot and little else. Nobody is going to pay a subscription fee to have a tree in front of their business, but they might cough up money for a third party to maintain a tank of algae out front if it was sold right

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    18 hours ago

    Because there’s no serious answers being given even though there are at least 2:

    • trees have roots, roots ruin any nearby human infrastructure. You’ll note this says “in urban environments” and that there are trees nearby, so this is probably the big reason
    • trees need maintenance, which costs money. this is a stupid reason imo, but it’s one nonetheless
    • algae is cool, ok?
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        16 hours ago

        Not just more efficient, vastly more efficient. Algae is 10-50 times faster at processing CO² than trees are. Some algae can be up to 400x as efficient.

        It’s just not as “nice” to look at, we usually associate algae with growth in unsafe bodies of water like bogs, etc. versus a nice clean pool or even a maintained pond.

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      18 hours ago

      On the other hand, algae do not produce shade, not sure if it filters atmospheric pollutants, and trees provide all sort of other services to the local ecosystem.

      Maybe this invention can be used on places where trees cannot lives, but I’d still take a city with trees over a city full of green tanks.

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      18 hours ago

      “let’s uproot all these trees and invade this space. and when the roots of the few remaining trees do what they are supposed to do, let’s blame them for ‘ruining’ human infrastructure!”

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    12 hours ago

    The most dystopian thing I’ve seen… Fuck, idk, it’s all pretty dystopian these days, I’ve lost count

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    18 hours ago

    A big problem with trees is roots, especially in cities with dense underground infrastructure. If there’s an actual way to produce the same amount of oxygen as a tree in a smaller space, I’m all for it. I’m honestly okay with how these look, assuming low maintenance.

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    18 hours ago

    'What’s wrong with trees? They’re taking up space for real estate development, stupid peasant."