• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    The way these studies are phrased feels gross and seem to only serve to perpetuate these problems by shifting the blame of systemic issues on the individuals suffering from them instead of the powerful people benefiting from wealth inequality that cause this kind of desperation.

    The US is guilty of this too with our “Financial Literacy” propaganda.

  • ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    I saw so many people in another instance relating this to shaming people for avocado toast rather than these games exploiting gambling addiction.

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      4 hours ago

      It’s definitely a psychological issue where these games are designed to slowly bleed their players without them noticing. The most I’ve ever spent on a gacha was $40 over 6 years and I regret that so much. It takes a wakeup call and education to stop people from being suckered in.

  • HollowNaught@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    I had an argument with a guy who was in a shared friend’s discord server about this. He was adamant that, if somebody spent too much money on a game, then it was all their fault. Despite me going over several (clearly manipulative) tactics, all he said was that people who fell for these must be stupid and that they deserved it

    Yeah later on he was kicked because of other (Similarly dickish) reasons

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      16 hours ago

      I mean, he’s not wrong. it is something within their power to control, and only they can stop the cycle.

      addiction is a hell of a drug though.

      companies that prey on the vulnerabilities of humans like that should be regulated no different than drug, alcohol, or firearm companies.

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        16 hours ago

        I agree they’re partially at fault, but to deny the part the company played by creating artificial FOMO, sales, and gates is barbaric to say the least

        It needs more regulation, I agree. Particularly for premium currencies (which thankfully the EU seems to be doing something about)

  • MoonlightFox@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    I wouldn’t mind microtransactions, gacha games and gacha mechanics if there were sane upper limits to spend.

    I was trying to learn how different gacha games work and monetization in f2p games in general, especially obes for smartphones.

    I was surprised about how similar all the methods across games are. Some were a lot worse than others though.

    I think the monetization method is sometimes viewed as acceptable by some, because the games often have a lot of content and can be a lot of fun to play. The thing I really dislike is that it’s unfairly monetized. Some people pay the majority of the income, they are also known as whales. There are of course some people that spend small sums, but the whales is where it is at.

    After Arcade games went out of fashion we had a nice long period in which players paid about the same for a game, and got the same experience.

    Now vulnerable people are paying more than they can afford to finance the game for everyone, and still everone gets a limited experience.

    Some of the games I enjoyed the most had terrible gacha mechanics. One of them had items and mounts with 1/500 chance per pull. Of course it is designed so that it appears as 1/10, but it is really 1/500. To justify this they had the PITY system. Yes, thats the actual name of it. The pity system makes it so that after buying 500 pulls ypu are guaranteed the mount.

    The price for 500 pulls? 500$

    After the free pulls you could play to get, about 480$.

    So I actually can’t get the entire game for even 500$…

    That was just one of many such instances. I could probably spend more than 10 000$ and still not unlock absolutely everything.

    Was it purely cosmetic? Nope. It gave an advantage too.

    Legislation that effectively adds an upper limit to unlock the entire game with a sensible maximum monthly cost for new content, is needed in my opinion.

  • Vipsu@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    Played Puzzle and dragons for like 3 years when mobile games where booming and spend like total of 300€ to it.

    Honestly it was pretty good and did not feel nearly as predatory as many other mobile gatcha games I’ve played after that.

    But it did kinda red pill me on F2P games, gatcha, fomo, peer pressure and many other manipulative methods these games use. The fact that Gungho ended up closing the servers down in Europe making people lose their accounts also showcased pretty well how temporary these games are.

    Now if I’ll ever again play games with gatcha I’ll do no gatcha “challenge” run. It’s pretty good for gauging whether the game is actually any good and how fast you’ll hit the paywall.

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    16 hours ago

    Let me guess

    • Anime tiddies
    • Short skirts
    • Long socks
    • Ultra brain-stimulating UI
    • Ultra brain-stimulating sound effects
    • 9001 virtual currencies to mask the actual cost of everything
    • Mystery RNGs everywhere
    • Muh behavioral psychology
    • More manipulative shit

    Parents need to do their fucking jobs.

    These gaming companies (parasites) need to lose all their IP protections.

    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      There‘s a bitter irony in demanding parents doing their jobs because that‘s exactly why they don‘t have time for parenting. The cost of living is too damn high.