• Bosht@lemmy.world
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    I wonder if a large part of this as well is strictly because BYD is priced cheaper. I know for me personally 90 percent of the reason I haven’t invested in electric is because they’re all still luxury priced.

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    4 days ago

    I don’t get how a company is losing this much in multiple countries yet is still operating?

    Like if they can lose this much and still be operating and investments not tanking, would it follow that they can pay better wages and benefits?

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    Both cars support oppressive dictators, but one is cheaper, supports CarPlay / Android auto, and has actually buttons for things.

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      I am not sure you can say BYD supports a dictator per se, more like it exists in a state capitalist country where you exist at the behest of the dictator.

      Elon actively pushed and spent money to get trump elected.

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        True, but that thing is like a fighter jet compared to Telsa’s void of emptiness. 14 controls on the wheel (and they’re labeled), real controls for drive modes, there are basic climate controls on the center console, you can manually adjust fan orientation, etc.

        It’s still overly reliant on touch, but I’d easily take that over a Telsa.

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          Meh. I would not take either. In fact I actually didn’t. I went to a showroom and got inside their EVs and PHEVs while looking for a car. My immediate reaction after sitting in the driver’s seat of their PHEV was “I don’t want to drive this”. Same thing with the pure EV. I’ll give you the wheel, but those A/C controls next to the “shifter” are touch surfaces instead of actual buttons, and they’re just as annoying and worthless as touchscreen controls. Which is sad because those cars have fantastic stats on paper and very competitive prices. Unfortunately most EVs on the market have fucking stupid interior designs. Very often you have to choose between affordable and well designed. Not very many that are both.

          In the end I decided not to buy a new car at all. Still got my 2015 Leon.

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    My commute is about 20 miles a day. Charging level 1 at work is enough unless I go out on the weekend. My Nissan Leaf has been good enough for me. And it is neither Tesla nor Chinese.

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      My only gripe with that car is that it looks really bland. Then again I am no James Dean where I sit with two kids seats with the back full of shopping

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    I don’t think Musk much cares or ever did. The goal was to milk tesla for every last dime.

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      He didn’t care so much he bawled on trump’s shoulder and got him to buy one.

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        That was for show. And not to fix the underlying problems. If he cared, he would actually find and fix the problems.

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          just look how he treated Twitter once he bought it. He cares…. just about the wrong shit.

          Because he’s unstable and undiagnosed and in denial.

          And yet somehow he seems to legitimately think that’s how you do business.

          Perhaps it’s because America coddles everything under the capitalist label so he doesn’t have to do business like he has to care about it succeeding or face maybe actions have consequences. And he has too many millions to have to count anything else as a success.just worries about ppl being ‘meanies’

          The system makes it so that the rich fail at failing.

          Enablism and denial all the way down.

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    Any non-cunts in the EV manufacturing space? Or is that a prerequisite?

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      I have a Chevy Bolt EUV. Maybe it’s still cunty. But I’m pretty sure it better than China spyware or a Nazi.

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    I’m genuinely surprised people be ok with BYD on Lemmy. It’s authoritarian spyware, period. There are more options than these two - ww don’t have to choose the lesser evil.

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    i drive a 440. it’s got a giant supercharger sticking out of the hood trying to get me pulled over all the time. i have to wear earplugs while driving to avoid permanent hearing loss. there’s no way to listen to shiteating death metal while driving, because the engine is just too loud. handles turns like shit. i don’t give a fuck

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    I don’t know about you but I drive over 5-10km regularly. For a short miserable stretch my daily commute was 90 miles. Buying household groceries or anything of size sounds annoying or impossible on bike. And then there’s work tools and whatnot that many professionals keep in vehicle.

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      The ebike option meme is so laughable. I recently did some research on cargo bikes and the entry models cost as much as a used ICE car with no air con, no rain cover, no heating, no safety. Ebike people are straight up delusional in thinking this is ready to replace cars.

      Getting a second hand ice car is objectively the best thing you can do right now for everyone involved unless you ride half a million km a year.