• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    12 days ago

    They (the DOGE bros, especially Elon) deserve prison time for their fuckery.

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      11 days ago

      Funny, I have an interview invite from DOGE (I considered joining USDS before it became DOGE, had been asked to join by a member back during Obama). Obviously I never did it, but I do keep those emails for historical purposes now haha

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    11 days ago

    I don’t think it was a “random” cloud server at all. I think the people who bought the data already have it now.

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    11 days ago

    I’ve said for a while that the SSA should do basically this exact thing. In a more controlled manner, but still the same result. Announce something like “in two years, we’ll make our database public. Every single name, DOB, and SSN will be publicly searchable.

    It sounds radical, but SSNs were never meant to be a secure form of ID. Old cards even said something like “do not use this as ID” on them. But organizations quickly latched onto it because they wanted to have a way to identify individuals with the same name and DOB. And SSNs were convenient because people already had them.

    It would force organizations to develop their own way to ID people. It would be a huge step towards making an actual secure form of ID. And the warning time would give people enough time to design the new system and roll it out, while still giving a hard deadline for when it needs to be done.

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      11 days ago

      I dont have a problem with that, but what I will object to is the current regime making the replament ID system. 1) there is no way they would design it well or securely, smart people capable of building such a system are usually the first to bounce to another country as they will have the means to do so. 2) it would be too easy for them to lord the new ID over peoples heads (like they are with immigration status now) and impliment a social credit score like China does.

      Your correct that SSNs should not be used as IDs, but getting the government to build a modern system for that opens too many avanues for abuse (especially with darth cheeto in charge).

      • 𝕛𝕨𝕞-𝕕𝕖𝕧@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        10 days ago

        this is a whole can of worms that you can look into but the entire western conception of the Chinese social credit system is essentially a myth propagated by western media outlets.

        don’t get me wrong, the chinese government legislated local governors implement something vaguely similar to the financial credit system in the west but, as the law works in china, they all interpreted the order differently and it seems only the “good” parts get rolled out nationally.

        situations similar to the western “social credit” myth existed for a brief time in a very small number of local pockets (think smaller divisions such as cities and towns), but they were quickly absconded and the architects of those systems punished, for essentially wasting government time and money.

        note i’m definitely not a tankie fuck tankies but i also think if we’re gonna talk about china we don’t need to make shit up bc just like the US there is plenty of real shit to criticize. the “social credit” thing is a joke that westerners get made fun of internationally for believing, pretty much. it’s not remotely real, at least how you probably think of it.

        realistically at this point you don’t have more or less rights or freedoms as a citizen of china or the united states. you’re pretty equally fucked either way now.

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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        11 days ago

        I don’t know much about it, but what did they change with the whole Real ID / star on Licenses and such. I believe the purpose was to make it so the IDs were to a minimum standard so they could be accepted in all 50 states. If they all had unique ID numbers (I don’t know that they do) they could have just used those, or expanded on those and already have the ID system in place. To travel to another state and have a valid ID, I believe the cut off date is November of this year. (At least for my State, because my spouse doesn’t drive and her ID she was told would no longer be valid post November if she doesn’t go in and get it done)

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      11 days ago

      No, we don’t need this at all. businesses need to be fined out of existence for using the ssn, and lenders should do due diligence without some imaginary score.

  • Ileftreddit@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    DOGE employees should be executed by firing squad. In fact, we should bring back a whole bunch of capital punishments- hanging, beheading, drawing and quartering, burning at the stake; unless you meet the fascists at their level you’ll never scare them enough to keep their political views private. Like what happened to Mussolini was TOO GOOD for every single person involved in the executive branch right now.

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    10 days ago

    It’s times like this I wonder about the like/dislike paradigm I.E. “I like/dislike knowing this and/or appreciate the perceived reputability of the source” vs. “This is good news/I fucking hate this.”

    This one just got a “I fucking hate this” from me.

    • A Wild Mimic appears!@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 days ago

      The votes on the posting itself should reflect if the content is worth your time. I’m not even American and I have a really bad feeling after reading the article, but it’s better to know than being in the dark, and the article itself is full of details which make it pretty reasonable to believe it’s the truth.

      Mr Borges really brought the receipts on this one, and he is one of the heros of the american people that will probably pay dearly for his courage, and he still did what’s right.

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    10 days ago

    At this point I think you can legally opt out of any type of data collection by the government like the Census. You’re required by law to participate but they are also required by law to keep your information safe, that’s no longer possible in this administration and there’s plenty of relevant data to back it up.

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      10 days ago

      I think we should be able to have a national class action against DOGE. 100% serious, all US citizens for sure, and anyone else with data in the Social Security database, should sue the individuals responsible for this.

      Then we take the money and start a company that contracts out to the government to create a national digital ID system that is the most secure in the world, and allows for amazing anonymity.

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      10 days ago

      Once a nuke goes off in a major city, we are pretty much guaranteed it from what I understand about multiple cyberpunk-style worlds

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    11 days ago

    SSN is a good example of the illusion of freedom for Americans, why have a standardized Photo ID when you can have a set of numbers that when leaks can ruin your life.

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    9 days ago

    the government may be responsible for reissuing every American a new Social Security number at great cost

    Has this department made our government efficient yet?