I lived in china for 4 years and Winnie has Def never been outlawed. Chinese censorship is much more sophisticated than “hey, that’s illegal.” There’s not a list of pictures or memes or phrases that if you’re caught with you’ll get a visit from the police. No no no. There are hundreds of thousands of people monitoring social media for the latest “subversive” trends. When a new trend develops that content is blacklisted and just not allowed to be spread. You’ll send your friend a picture and it never shows up on their phone. There’s no indication on your end that it didn’t send or they didn’t get it. You can have this content on your phone, the CCP doesn’t care. They care about it spreading. And you’ll never get in trouble for trying to spread it because the system doesn’t allow it to spread.
That’s actually kinda cool in a techno dyatopian kinda way.
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Should openly fascist people be allowed to vote in your opinion? Just curious what peoples’ take on this is.
No, reactionaries should be rehabilitated to the best of society’s capabilities. Participation in society isn’t sacred, the purpose of democracy is to deliver the best results for the most amount of people. Reactionaries that wish to expel and murder minority groups should be treated as any other violent criminal, through rehabilitation if possible.
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The guy’s a braindead pedant. He’s not here to have a discussion, he’s here to feel superior.
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Should openly fascist people be allowed to vote [for government] in your opinion?
Why should they? As in, materially, how does society benefit from that? How does the democratic decision-making tool become more useful from it? I consider democracy to be a decision-making process, so I don’t care for vague idealistic assertions like “every adult should have the right to vote” unless there’s a benefit from it. And allowing an explicitly anti-liberal, anti-democratic, bad-faith opportunist (and fascism is explicitly and openly all of those) to vote is harmful to the democratic process and increases the odds of it making a bad decision.
That happens to me on YouTube; the only way I can talk to some people is on rednote.
Can’t they use stuff like signal or simplex to communicate. How they going to decrypt the msg and the app simple x is open source. Until they are not seeing what app you have in the system it should not be a problem
Those apps are blocked. Your apps have to be unencrypted to be distributed in China. If you can get a VPN that works you can use them.
it’s a massive fucking lie anyway; anyone who’s been to china can tell you they have winnie the pooh merch in every fuckin’ shop. winnie the pooh is very popular there.
I think the top comment is the real answer on this.
There is censorship in China, as well as in the west. They just operate very differently.
In the west, outside the US, I think it’d be fairly easy to argue there’s more censorship in China. (Even with the pretty depressing clamp down on right to protest, and suppressing of anti-israel speech in many forms happening at the moment)
Equally though, people massively overblow what censorship is actually like in China. I’m not gonna get disappeared next time I go to China just for this comment. Or even if I overtly criticised the government on real-name social media.
tl;dr “China bad!” and “China so good!” are both equally annoying positions to find on the internet.
Reality is nuanced, but that doesn’t seem to make people happy.
suppression of anti-israel speech
any source on this because what I’m seeing on xiaohongshu is quite the opposite
You just can’t make memes about Xi using Pooh on social media I guess.
Out of curiosity, is there any Chinese source that says that? Or are we just operating off memes we have seen?
The many faces of JD Vance
Funny meme but it’s worth noting that he wasn’t denied entry to the US for the meme. It was because they found messages between him and his drug dealer.
Which they fabricated. Fascists always make up excuses.
