• Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    You make this point like there’s any other option.

    I would love to not have to vote for a Democrat.

    But I have to, because we are all doomed.

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      24 days ago

      You can join Leftist parties and try to build up alternatives that can avoid doom, you don’t have to side against the people trying to save us all.

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      24 days ago

      There are other options. Join a socialist org and organize/eductate within your workplace and community.

      You don’t have to vote for a Democrat.

      People have been voting Democrats the whole time on our path to where we are, it didn’t stop us from being doomed. We had 2 Obama terms right before Trump 1, then we had a Biden term between Trump 1 and 2 and it stopped/fixed nothing.

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      25 days ago

      You don’t have a say in the dictatorship of capital and white supremacy so it doesn’t matter what you do. If it makes you feel better then do it but it doesn’t accomplish anything.

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        24 days ago

        You’re spouting leftist rhetoric as if you’re actually on the side of the working class, yet have no problem snubbing the actual work and resorting to billionaires’ pet AIs. Be consistent, you poseur. If you actually cared about the working class you wouldn’t be rubbing artists out of the picture by using genAI, and you’d certainly be against the potential for AI to erase millions of jobs and devastate the environment with energy demands.

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      25 days ago

      Be white supremacist USA empire of capital

      Overthrow Russian Government

      Rig Russian election and install compliant drunk

      US crime families aka “corporations” run rampant and influence Russia

      Move on to install potential US puppet that US presidents work with for years

      You: The Russians are the cause of all our problems

      Not really beating those Americans are propagandized stereotype are you disguy

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        24 days ago

        You misunderstand. Our problem is our woefully uneducated population is inundated with misinformation on how our system works and propaganda to keep them too afraid to learn.

        In case my metaphor was too elusive for you, I was referring to Jill Stein. She only shows up as a spoiler candidate every four years, never runs for any other government office, and has a long history of meetings and dinners with Putin.

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          In case my metaphor was too elusive for you

          Bruh 😂 y’all might as well come out like Ben Garrison labeling every single fucking thing and still think you’re being subtle.

          Yes, we know you meant Jill Stein, you’re only the ten thousandth lib to say that one.

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            23 days ago

            Not a lib, and clearly they didn’t understand because their response was all about Russia and not about Stein.

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        24 days ago

        The US turning Russia fascist doesn’t make Russia any less fascist, and doesn’t negate the fact that Russia is demonstrably flooding the web with propaganda and attempting (and largely succeeding) to influence Western politics

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            24 days ago

            Bro, Russia is ruled by a dictator-for-life, has some of the most conservative social norms and laws, including institutionalised homophobia and suppression of the press, and is currently engaged in an expansionist war.

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              So it is indeed BS. Conservative is the only accurate thing you mentioned. Like all of eastern Europe.
              In no way can you seriously label that as fascist unless you’re parroting propaganda to demonise Russia.
              Unlike Ukraine they have elections, and didn’t ban all opposition parties, 11 of them, put union leaders in jail or have openly fascist batallions in their army and celebrate WW2 SS genociders.
              On the contrary, all Russian fascists fight for the Russian legion on the Banderist side.

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                Sure, the citizens of Russia just love Putin so much they voted for him consistently since the 90s. Takes a special kind of gullible to believe that.

                https://www.politico.eu/article/putin-wins-rigged-russian-election-with-88-of-the-vote-exit-poll/

                And i guess the people convicted for being associated with the LGBT are just paid actors.

                https://www.globalequality.org/component/content/article/1-in-the-news/186-the-facts-on-lgbt-rights-in-russia

                As for other Eastern European countries also being far right - that doesn’t make Russia any more left, does it? “They’re not the only far right country” is such bizarre rhetoric. I guess if everyone else is doing it, eh?

                I’m aware that the links aren’t exactly leftist, but i can digging further on my phone. Literally all the sources I found agree.

                EDIT: If you have sources that reliably contradict this, I’ll happily accept being wrong. There’s certainly room to question what is said about Russia.

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                  You clearly lack knowledge of basic facts.
                  The 90’s had Gorbachov and the traitor/sell out Yeltzin who let the country be leeched by western oligarchs.
                  Putin was only acting president from 2000 (notice it’s a different millennium) and president much later.
                  And you can go there, check any polls by anyone and they will indeed tell you the people want him in charge.
                  Takes a special kind of gullible to believe that it’s all fake and all those people are lying.
                  IDC about some garbage slander article a western biased outlet claiming otherwise as usual without any proof.
                  Or the one literally saying “advancing an American policy…” LOL

                  “As for other Eastern European countries also being far right - that doesn’t make Russia any more left, does it? “They’re not the only far right country” is such bizarre rhetoric. I guess if everyone else is doing it, eh?”

                  Your bizarre rethoric is claiming Russia is fascist while there are more right wing, and even far-right countries like ex-ukraine or the Baltics.
                  Not to mention Poland who have only finally managed to end their LGBT-free zones.

                  So you have nothing to back up your fascist propaganda claims despite you conveniently ignoring the facts I mention of other countries actually having fascist features and cherrypicking LGBTQ stuff which is also a fail.

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              24 days ago

              Lmao. They have a different democracy than yours, that’s not automatically a dictatorship in the way you mean it. Inasmuch as a liberal system can be “democratic”, the US has no leg to stand on calling others dictatorships. Your presidents might as well come out with a big hand up their ass on a podium branded with your banks’ names.

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                23 days ago

                I’m not American, nor was that my logic. Please don’t resort to strawmen as dumb as “different form of democracy = dictatorship”.