• HazardousBanjo@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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    Here’s the thing:

    I didn’t believe for a second that a Kamala victory would have crushed fascism forever.

    In fact, I’m positive the GOP would place Trump’s cold corpse as their nominee in all future elections if they had to.

    The problem is simple:

    Fascists are in power right now.

    They wouldn’t be in nearly as much power if Kamala had won

    Because the fascists are in power, its exceedingly unlikely we’ll ever have a fair election again with this government

    That wouldn’t be nearly as likely to be the case if Kamala had won.

    Furthermore, I’m tired of white leftists screaming for revolution while they themselves know damn good and well they’d never fight in one themselves, and they wouldn’t suffer even close to as much as racial, sexual and gender minorities will in resisting fascism.

    The white leftists who refused to vote for Kamala suffer nowhere near as much as any minority living under Trump, and they knew that and still relax with their arms behind their heads today.

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      The white leftists who refused to vote for Kamala suffer nowhere near as much as any minority loving under Trump, and they knew that and still relax with their arms behind their heads today

      The smug liberals who refused to have a backbone or humanity in the face of their party’s genocide suffer nowhere near as much as Palestinans suffered under Biden and Harris, and they knew that and still relax with their fingers in their ears today

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        So you’re not at all refuting that minorities are suffering g far more than white people under Trump?

        And here’s the issue with using the genocide of the Palestinians as an excuse to abandon all other minorities:

        Resistance against the genocide in Palestine exists almost entirely within the progressive wing of the Democratic party.

        Democracy would still almost certainly continue to exist in some capacity if Kamala had won.

        But now that Trump won, Israel is not only entirely free, with zero guard rails whatsoever, to complete their genocide and attack all of their neighbors, but now the US is further involved than ever, outright bombing Iran in the process.

        And genocide is your concern, huh?

        What about the 4k (minimum) missing minorities that were kidnapped by ICE?

        The mass building of concentration camps on US soil?

        The massacre of Venezuelan civilians as prelude to an outright war and enslavement of Venezuela?

        The campaign of the GOP’s to destroy the 14th amendment and Voting Rights Act? You know, eliminating birthright citizenship and voter rights, the same shit the Nazis did to Jews leading to the start of the Holocaust.

        Oh, and the total betrayal of Ukraine in Russia’s genocidal war on them?

        Refusal to vote for Kamala produced more genocide. Kamala was objectively the less genocidal option than Trump.

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          Kamala was objectively the less genocidal option than Trump.

          In my mind palace.

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          Russia’s genocidal war

          Words have meaning, and war is not genocide. You people support the Ukrainian coup government, who were doing actual ethnic cleansing before the Russian Federation finally stopped them. Anyone in the Donbas region would throw you in a hole for this equivocation, and you would deserve it. It makes me sick when liberals just mindlessly project the crimes of America’s vassals and allies on America’s enemies. Israel and Ukraine are allies. Israel trains both the Ukranian military and ICE. You are supporting, either tacitly or overtly, two different sets of nazis. You are a nazi supporter.

          Refusal to vote for Kamala produced more genocide. Kamala was objectively the less genocidal option than Trump.

          This is genocide-justifying horseshit to soothe your guilty conscience. Gaza was levelled under the Democrats. I’m not reading the rest of your fascist apologia because frankly, you people all spew the same delusional arguments. Anyone in Palestine would throw you into the sea for this inhumanity, and you would deserve it. Your cowardice and servility in the face of unimaginable cruelty has doomed you to live the rest of your life as a Good German. I would say good luck, but I don’t wish good luck for you. I wish you a sudden moment of terrible clarity.

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              There is no adequate evidence whatsoever that any ethnic cleansing was taking place in Ukraine before Russia’s invasion, let alone one carried out by the Ukrainian government.

              The genocide denier

              Kamala was the less genocidal candidate.

              The genocide denier

              I don’t think you’re gonna be able to get a well trusted perception of events from most people in the area.

              The colonialist dehumanizer

              Germans are generally progressive people

              The hitlerite imperialist

              That’s a fact.

              Source: I made it up

              Russia is committing genocide in its war against Ukraine

              Usa projection

              Russia is the aggressor in the war against Ukraine

              Usa projection

              You’re just **** and regurgitating Kremlin propaganda.

              This will get you banned, ableist nazi scum

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              Do tell me what the roadmap for establishing progressive policies is like under Trump vs Kamala

              Seems we’re objectively further away from a progressive government than ever. Am I wrong?

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                Damn thats true, seems like all your voting shit doesn’t fuckin work at all🤷‍♂️

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            Not a rebuttle to my point at all.

            I’ll take it that you have absolutely no reasonable counter argument and are just shitposting images of minorities being attacked with no real goal in mind.

            How typical

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            As opposed to…?

            You understand the US has a binary party system, right? You have 2 choices.

            Since the GOP primaries for Trump, and Biden totally fucked over the Dem party by dropping too late for anyone other than Kamala to take the ticket, that was the choice.

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              This is not an argument for cowardice and “lesser evil” fascism, this is an argument for revolution.

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                A revolution that you mfers will never fight in.

                Time and time again we see terminally online leftists scream for revolution, and absolutely no indication one will ever happen, let alone that they’ll participate.

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                  This is you coping by reflexively projecting your cowardice and complacency onto others to justify your uselessness, with an (un)healthy dose of “it can’t happen here” american exceptionalism. Keep wallowing, your overlords love it.

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                    Nice psychological projection!

                    You disphits realize we wouldn’t currently be living under fascism if Kamala had won, right?

                    Like, objectively we wouldn’t be.

                    And yes, you chicken-hawk cowards will never participate in a revolution. You rather put everyone else in a state of such extreme desperation that they feel the need to fight for you.

                    Fucking pathetic.