I live in a country where smoking has generally been on the decline for a while now but even still I see thousands of cigarette butts in just about any public place. They litter the sides of the road, bus shelters, alleyways, outside clubs, bars and pubs, public toilets, park benches and just about everywhere else. Its even extending to disposable vapes now as well.
For the most part, where I live doesn’t have that much of other kinds of litter about and is generally clean. And most public bins and all smoking areas have ashtrays and dedicated cigarette bins so it wouldn’t be hard to dispose of them properly like any other piece of rubbish and even then there’s often cigarette butts within sight of the bins and ashtrays.
Why then do people have a completely different approach for cigarettes?
They don’t consider it littering. That the cigarette butt will somehow just magically degrade like a fallen leaf. It truly is remarkable how selfish smokers can be.
Have you ever heard of “broken window syndrome?” It’s the idea that once there are a couple of broken windows on buildings in an area, quickly more will start getting broken. But if every window is intact, you will only get the occasional vandal being bold enough to break the first one.
It’s not scientific and may not even have any truth in it, but there is something to be said for the idea that if people see others doing something, they are more likely to go ahead and do it themselves.
To the point: if you see thousands of butts everywhere, smokers do too and probably consider it normal by now, and don’t care.
This only explains how things go from bad to worse. So who drops the first butt? Well: it’s the most selfish, lazy, inconsiderate guy around. There always is one.
Funny how all this adds up to the fact that we will inevitably herd behind the worst person around. Maybe that’s why we suck so bad as a species.
Maybe not the best example to use a racist police practice
I’m aware of the problematic policing.
The point being made here is “we feel license to do things we see lots of other people doing, and we hesitate to do things that we don’t see anyone else doing.”
This point can be made without dragging us into the racist policing. If you know a better name for it, by all means suggest one.
I don’t think using propaganda to try to explain reality is healthy.
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Eat shit and farewell.
If someone doesn’t care about themselves, why would they care about other or littering.
I was a smoker for about 20 years and quit in 2021 with Chantix.
For all but the last maybe 5 years of that, I just had cigarette butts on my mental whitelist. I was an otherwise very litter-conscious person who just didn’t consider butts litter because…? I never reasoned it out, and was like I suddenly realized I was fucking littering and then I became hyper sensitive about it.
It took me over ten years to realize this too, although I was young and stupid so it kind of follows. I started carrying a bag with a seal with me and if there wasn’t a public ash tray in view, I’d just drop them in there and I was so ashamed when I first started that, since it was so easy and all the things I thought would be problems, like the smell, just… literally never was. And how quickly the bag would fill up, ugh. All that used to go to the ground. Note however that I was conscious of littering and always if I knew there was an ash tray, say, no more than some 100m detour from my current path, I’d just take the extra steps to put it there. But they are surprisingly rare, especially towards the end of my smoking habit, when smoking started to really die out and be a lot less common. A lot of places, like bars for example, didn’t necessarily put ash trays by the door or terrace, which was how it used to be.
I’m lucky I got out of the habit. But I can sort of emphatise those who do it without thinking about it, especially if they are young.
Younger generations are also lucky, at least here, since smoking is so ludicrously expensive nowadays with the taxes and all, and add to that good education, I very rarely see young people smoking anymore. Seems to be mostly people in their 30s or 40s — my age group — and of us, mostly the “hillbilly” types.
I do use nicotine pouches though, to this day. Low nicotine ones, but anyway. Those are very natural for not trashing, like the Nordic snus, since the pucks/containers come with its own small compartment for the used pouches, that’s easy to clean up at home. And those pucks are very recyclable too (granted that the region has the sort of plastic sorting that differentiates washable/directly reusable containers like we do for glass) which at least from what I have seen, gets done properly a lot of the time.
In general, I think the newer generations are much more aware of all this and do a great job of being conscious of the environment, not only at the global scale, but also just the local environment and surroundings too.
Let’s just hope we didn’t fuck up bad enough so that they might have a chance at adulthood and actually transferring all that to more effective and serious politics and activism. We might just get saved ourselves, too, if they just learn to be decisive enough to push us fuckups out of the picture. God I hope enough of them have the dreams, passion and idealism to actually have that drive and fire.
This became a random tangent, sorry if you got this far!
There’s a guy at work who would squat down and chain-smoke outside the building main entrance and littered cigarette butts all over the place.
I confronted him about it one day, and asked him to throw his butts away. Now he smokes by his car and that area of the parking lot is full of cigarette butts.
Fucking disgusting.
Smokers have the most opportunities to litter.
I imagine few people create garbage multiple times a day while outside. The people who do only litter if they can’t be bothered to find a bin, so they probably rarely visit that particular place. So smokers, teenagers and truckers just have more opportunities to litter, leaving butts, wrappers and cans.
And once you’re used to littering when there’s no bin, you do it when there are bins as well.
Because smokers are usually selfish assholes. And not terribly bright.
How often do you see somewhere to put a cigarette butt? Sure people are selfish and lazy but if there was somewhere to put them in public spaces they would be used. People who smoke in the car and toss them out the window are dickheads though
Ron Popeil died before he could invent a pocket ashtray.
I don’t notice this in my country. Most bins have a cigarette bin attached and most smokers don’t just light up anywhere. It’s water bottles here instead.
Since nobody has mentioned it yet: Have you never wondered how dumpster fires get started?
Because there aren’t any fucking public trash cans and noone is carrying that shit. Same reason you see nips everywhere.
And yet I can drink a soda and somehow not throw the bottle onto the ground. I’m a fucking hero.
Maybe just carry a tin for your butts since it’s not exactly a surprise that you have them.
I have a Japanese friend who showed me these little zip up bags for carrying them until you find a trashcan, and they’re flame retardant. She said they’re pretty common over there, so should be widely available to order.
