• markovs_gun@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Jews don’t really hate anyone for not believing in their God. Unlike Christianity and Islam, Jews don’t believe that everyone has to follow their religion. They don’t really believe in Heaven and Hell, and they don’t proselytize to people who aren’t already Jews. Judaism is for the Jewish people and that’s it.

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      9 days ago

      No, but a key tenet is the belief that Jews have a “higher purpose” in life than gentiles, and unfortunately this manifests as ethno-religious supremacy in the more conservative circles. A lot of the rhetoric surrounding Gaza is that Jews have a biblical right to the land over…the people that actually live there.

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      Well, it is true that unlike other religions, Jews don’t try to necessarily recruit new people, They do try to recruit non-religious Jewish people into religion, which is still bad. And the Jewish religion still has a bunch of terrible, racist, misogynistic and overall just terrible beliefs that are inherent to the religion. And there are still a bunch of Jews who just hate all other religions, especially Orthodox Jews.

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      9 days ago

      Interesting. That’s almost the opposite of Baha’is. Baha’is don’t proselytize because everyone is a Baha’i. They just haven’t discovered it for themselves yet, and they have to do that, it’s not the job of the Baha’is to do anything but live the best way they can. Their “Kingdom of God,” or afterlife is also distinctly different from the concept of Heaven and Hell as well.

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      8 days ago

      Yeah, the religion with the “chosen people” . Yep. Definitely tolerant of non-believers.

      God’s wrath? This only is directed at believers right?

      Lol

      Jews are welcome to believe in whatever they like provided they’re not hurting anyone, but let’s not pretend their religion as written, or hell even widely practiced, is somehow more tolerant compared to other religions.

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        Have you read the Bible? Half of the Old Testament is God getting mad at Israel and punishing them with wars and diseases. I haven’t done the math but more of God’s wrath in the Bible seems to be directed at Israel rather than her enemies.

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          To me any religion that excludes people or exalts people on the basis of tribe is not tolerant end of story.

          I haven’t read the entirety of the Bible. But happy to be persuaded that my understanding of God and his chosen people is inaccurate.

          For example, this was incredibly easy to search for: Destruction of the Canaanites

          I would wager there are many such stories. Judaism, like most religions, is pretty fucked up.

          If anyone really believes God chose their people over others, you inherently believe your tribe is more special, more righteous, or favoured by God. To me, that belief is nothing short of dangerous - *gestures broadly throughout human history*

          I’m not really out of line here to assert that makes the orthodox belief foster ethnic/tribal supremacy.

          I’m not saying everyone who believes in Judaism believes this way, but as a whole it’s pretty hard to argue their shit doesn’t smell as bad as the others.

          Exclusion is just not a sign of tolerance. Sorry ¯_(ツ)_/¯

          People are individuals, and I’d assert there’s a spectrum of views across believers.

          If we’re talking about the religion in general? I’ll have to strongly disagree that it’s only inward looking.