An autocratic country could easily spread propaganda in the democratic country, because of “free speech” rules that most democratic countries have, but a democratic country cannot easily spread its propaganda in the autocratic country.

An autocratic country can buy an election in the democratic country, but the democratic country cannot easily coup an autocratic country.

Are all democracies are doomed to fail?

Is the future of humanity, autocracy? For the rest of humanity’s existence?

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    I don’t know if there are any good examples of autocracies working better than democracies.

    China looks good right now but it’s real estate market is about to collapse in a way that has probably not been seen before in American markets in a long time.

    The corruption in these countries is almost universal as the ruling bodies have nothing checking against them and are often staffed with shoe-ins who are there to make money. much of the bureaucracy doesn’t even function without the corruption. theft and extortion are toothpicks holding the system together.

    The US government is corrupt as fuck, but I don’t think Americans comprehend the nature of corruption outside of the western world. it really is another type of beast.

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        Between what? Democracy and oligarchy? Yeah, I guess. Most of those terms are often used pretty loosely…

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      The US has never been a democracy, we’ve never been a particularly equitable representative republic either and our government was designed this way on purpose

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        Guess it depends on how you define the term. The US certainly fits the minimalist representative definition. I don’t think equity is inherently part of the definition… Obviously I think it should be, but that’s more of a value overlaid on the organisational system, I think…

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          Literally all communication depends on how you define the terms you use, that’s the whole point of having fixed definitions for words, and the US absolutely does not fit any reasonable definition of a democracy

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            1. Fixed definitions for words do not exist. Language is constantly evolving.
            2. The US IS a representative democracy, and whether that’s actually functionally providing government by the people doesn’t really prevent this use of the term by a vast majority of people, whether you or I agree with it or not.
            3. In the context of the question, I think the US seems to fit more into the OP’s democracy category. I agree I’m using the term loosely, but does your terminology disagreement actually add anything?
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              1. Incorrect, fixed definitions don’t stay fixed forever, that doesn’t mean they aren’t fixed right now. Words mean things, if a word changes meaning in a generation or two or five it’ll mean fuck all for you right here and now.

              2. The US is not a democracy at all and never was. It was arguably at various points in time a representative republic, not a particularly good one but that’s not part of the definition.

              3. I don’t care what you think, I know you’re using the term loosely that’s my point, fucking duh

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    but the democratic country cannot easily coup an autocratic COuntry.

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    The United States has been until it decided to become an autocracy the most powerful nation in all of human history so take that how you will.

    Personally i am of the belief that democracy is inherently flawed though due to its reliance on people and therefore always doomed to either fail or go through a period of unrest and reform every hundred years or so

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    The problem isn’t that autocracies are better or that they win. The problem is specifically the democracy in the U.S, which is fucked because of ignorant/lazy population and greedy corrupt politicians.