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MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca to memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago

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MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca to memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago
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  • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Yeah there is pretty clear evidence of what China is doing

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      I’m still not clear on what exactly it is china is supposed to be doing, is it genocide? How are they doing it and for what purpose?

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        Not putting people into what is effectively a residential school.

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          oh yay, that’s the first time someone didn’t reply with ominous “human rights violations”. So they are forcing uighur children to attend boarding schools far away from their own cultures? How do you know this? And why go to all that trouble?

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            Is there a source that i could show you that you would actually believe? Like the UN? Or amnesty international? Or all the various reporting on it? Why go through the trouble to commit human rights violations? Racism, authoritarianism, etc.

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              UN woud be amazing, amnesty international usually cites sources, like anything like that would be amazing. Racism and authoritarianism are tools used by the oppressors, not the motivators. The lost generations in canada, pissrael and australia were to further a genocide of the native population in order to settle their land. A clear economic motivator. I don’t see a similar motive for china.

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                https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/08/china-still-no-accountability-for-crimes-against-humanity-in-xinjiang-three-years-after-major-un-report/

                https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/08/china-still-no-accountability-for-crimes-against-humanity-in-xinjiang-three-years-after-major-un-report/

                And then this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China?wprov=sfla1

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      So you have evidence the state dept couldn’t find? Why don’t you share it with them?

      https://law.stanford.edu/press/state-department-lawyers-concluded-insufficient-evidence-to-prove-genocide-in-china/

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        Did you fucking read the summary?

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          Yes, they’re still trying to push the lie even as they admit they can’t back up their claims.

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            It’s your fucking source that there was no genocide lol

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              Yes, and I’m accurately describing it. Admitting they didn’t have proof of genocide, then doubling down on the lie again. They’ve since abandoned even those claims, because the facilities no longer exist.

              Which is why there are no current sources to reference. You’re pushing a 10 year old lie that even the west gave up on.

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                No you’re not the fucking article summary literally says there are evidence of genocide. It’s right fucking there. No one has abandoned those claims. There are sources today that still talk about it. It’s not a lie just because it’s critical of China Oh shit 2025.is a decade ago? You must be a time traveler

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                  Your screenshot is from a CIA thinktank, admits the facilities were closed, and now claims that China celebrating Uyghur culture is a bad thing. Hahahahaha.

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                    Right since it’s not from China it’s fake. Hahahahahajaja

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                  Fyi a headline isn’t evidence

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                    No! I don’t believe it! I need your source from the Chinese government to know if what you are saying is true. It’s almost…as if the date was the point you were making, and there is a date from 2025…where people are still talking about it. Can’t make this shit up lol

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      Anything’s possible when you make shit up

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        The Chinese governments motto

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          https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/17/asia/uyghurs-muslim-countries-china-intl

          https://www.memri.org/tv/saudi-palestinian-ambassadors-china-clean-bill-health-xinjiang-knows-best-internal-affairs-liberal-democracies-not-for-everyone

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/muslim-countries-joined-china-in-defending-its-cultural-genocide-of-uighurs-arent-they-ashamed/2019/07/20/0a7d62b4-aa3f-11e9-86dd-d7f0e60391e9_story.html

          https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2021/08/08/2003762216

          So the story is that the US and our allies, who have spent decades villifying imprisoning and killing muslims, and who have repeatedly verifiably lied about similar human rights abuses to justify our foreign policy before, are the only ones who can be trusted to tell the truth about the conditions for muslims who just happen to be living in the country which is our single greatest global rival politically and economically, about whom we have an extremely obvious foreign policy motive for lying, but we’re definitely telling the truth this time and everyone else is lying? Every muslim majority nation on earth is apparently only supporting China because they’re either corrupt or too terrified to oppose them, despite the fact that the US has been completely unable to get similar results for Israel with our best efforts? And despite having the most advanced surveillance technology on earth, despite having satellites that can take high resolution pictures of any patch of dirt on earth and an unmatched intelligence network, the US has somehow been unable to obtain any incontrovertible physical evidence of this supposed genocide for years? And you believe that?

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            Ahhh more Chinese propaganda. Cope and cope and cope.

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              You’re pushing a years old propaganda campaign, which even western intelligence doesn’t push anymore, because it was all debunked and the facilities no longer exist. You’re repeating stale claims of oppression of people who have since been reintegrated and are thriving at the present moment, and refusing to acknowledge their current well-being because it’s too flattering for China.

              Someone recycling abandoned state propaganda from 2015 isn’t really in a position to accuse anyone of cope. LoL.

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                My person, your post that you used to argue unintentionally for my point is only from 2021, just because it’s critical of the hegemony of China doesn’t mean it’s untrue. That’s why I said cope lol

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                  You know why there’s no sources from 2025? Because they gave up pushing those lies years ago. The facilities are closed, and Uyghurs reintegrated. God you people are thick.

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                    The evidence is right there. Yet I’m thick? Fucking lol. Cope

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              CNN is chinese propaganda? The washington post? You’re not helping your case by saying idiotic shit like that

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                Please fucking read the articles. They don’t defend your position at all. Your not helping your case by posting shit that backs up what I am saying

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                  The articles do their best to spin in favor of the official US foreign policy narrative like all western news media but the actual evidence is pretty straightforward, the majority of the world agrees that there is no evidence of a genocide anywhere in China because it’s extremely obviously true. Also you completely ignored where I accurately pointed out that your accusation of “chinese propaganda” was nonsense, probably because you have no defense for it lol

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                    Nah you just try to cope all you want

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