scarily… They don’t need to to be this creepy, but even I’m a tad baffled by this.

Yesterday me and a few friends were at a pub quiz, of course no phones allowed, so none were used.

It came down to a tie break question of my team and another. “What is the run time of the Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the ring” according to IMDb.

We answered and went about our day. Today my friend from my team messaged me - top post on his “today feed” is an article published 23 hours ago…

Forgive the pointless red circle… I didnt take the screenshot.

My friend isn’t a privacy conscience person by any means, but he didnt open IMDb or google anything to do with the franchise and hasn’t for many months prior. I’m aware its most likely an incredible coincidence, but when stuff like this happens I can easily understand why many people are convinced everyone’s doom brick is listening to them…

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    Phones abaolutely do listen, but not to audio via the mic. When Apple and Google tell you they respect your privacy, they mean they don’t harvest data directly from a live feed of the mic nor camera; they still scan your files in some cases, and they harvest your browsing history, and read your text messages metadata, and check your youtube watch history, and scan your contacts, and check your location, and harvest hundreds of other litttle tiny data points that don’t seem like much but add up to a big profile of you and your behavior and psyche.

    So your friend was at a pub quiz with a couple dozen other people, and his phone knew where he was and who was nearby. A statistically significant portion of the people there were not privacy conscious and googled “Lord of the Rings runtime” or something similar. All that data got harvested by Google and Apple, and processed, and then the most recent and fitting entry from some master list of customers’ sites’ articles was pushed to all their newsfeeds.

    Humans don’t understand intuitively how much information is being processed through nonverbal means at any given time, and that’s the disconnect large companies exploit when they say misleading things like “noooo, your phone isn’t listening to you.”

    But it’s totally not privacy invasive, because at no point along the line did a human view your data (/s)

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      The person asking the trivia question needed to know the answer, so they could determine who was correct.

      Phones, as I understand them, average about 30 pings per second. That’s 30 times per second the phone is checking for signal strength with the nearest tower, among other data.

      They also work with any device that has wifi or bluetooth to help with location triangulation. So anyone at trivia that had their phone on them and powered, had their position noted as well as their proximity to others. If the location has smart TV’s on the walls, those were picking up the pings as well. If they have internet available to customers, there’s another point picking up the info.

      It’s already been shown that a few companies have listened to microphones. The data being extrapolated is so large, listening to the microphone would be counterproductive and redundant. There are devices everywhere, security cameras, billboards, inside each row of shelves at your grocery store, in every car that has a computer, lights at intersections, smart watches and other IOT devices, even appliances these days have wifi and bluetooth like refridgerators, coffee pots, robot vacuums, treadmills, i could go on.

      It’s scary that some company might be listening to your through your phones microphone but the real scary thing is that they don’t need to. They knew people at that trivia game would be searching for that answer before the question was even asked, without needing to listen in.

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        I hope they listen to me absolutely ripping ass. The idea that some corporate lackey who is noting what I say to feed me targeted ads just has his eardrums blown out by my booty thunder on a regular basis warms my heart.

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    I’m an Android/Google/Pixel person. I have a Google Home speaker at work (self-employed barber/stylist) and was playing old classic country music a few weeks ago. My client mentioned that her husband’s favorite artist is Porter Wagoner and his favorite song is Cold Hard Facts Of Life. Well, guess what the very next song was? And now, ever since then, I’ve been inundated with that song. It plays constantly.

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      Today I decided to check with a couple of local insurance agencies to see if I could get my family’s current coverage any cheaper. I never searched for this specific topic, only for contact info to reach out to a couple of agencies. Then I made two phone calls, sent two emails via the Gmail app including my current policies declaration pages, and I received one text message from an insurance agency. Now my news stream is flooded with ads for comparing insurance rates and changing companies.

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    Phones absolutely listen. But they probably process the speech locally, unless there’s a trigger word flagged, and send mostly text.

    But then it was found Google would upload the audio when a zipper sound was heard, so who knows how often your triggering spy conditions.

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    I am convinced they do listen. I have had 2 instances og this. Once I was talking with my mom about some new bedsheets and covers. She later went to the store and sent me a picture to see if it’s okay. I later got an add for the exact same bedsheets and covers.

    Had another similar thing when I got an add for some stuff we were just talking about with some people. Cannot remember what specifically.

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    Phones listen but not on the way you think, I’d say they just listen for keywords the same way it listens for “hey Google” also who knows maybe he searched it beforehand or is a fan

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    If you are worried about it then do something about it there are alot of things you can do to improve your privacy. If that’s not the case then forget it